Sunday, May 10, 2009

OPEN POSTS WEEK TWENTY-FIVE

The markets are really picking up and I am shocked. Never anticipated such a quick rise especially the S&P. Almost at beginning of 2009 levels and if you are willing to accept the markets as being the forecaster of economic recovery. Other signals are also being interpreted as being signals but it does seem bizarre when those signals indicate bad news but not as bad as it could be. Asian, Latin American and European funds have been doing exceptionally well. Bank stocks have been a gold mine. The sad reality is that measured unemployment is at 8.9% and real unemployment is probably around 16% - those collecting a check, those in transition, those who have dropped out of the labor market and those who work only part time. Long, long way to go on this mess.

Hal had an interesting post regarding documentation that the tribe may have been recognized prior to 1934. Isn’t that wonderful! I’m sure the ancestors that go back thousands of years would be delighted if the could be resurrected and given that astonishing news.

Limo apparently is focused on some non descript radio show that emanates for Brockton. I have listen only briefly months ago thanks to a link provided by BB. Maybe they have a studio audience and I can wander in and watch?

You win with pitching. I can find you several World Series winners that had lousy hitting and stellar pitching but cannot do it the other way around. The Sox bull pen continues to impress and Penny has back to back quality starts. Beckett appears to be a very good pitcher who had one great year. Dice-K is on the mend and should be ready to send Masterson back to the bull pen in a few weeks. Waiting in the wings is future Hall of Famer Smoltz and two kids who have been the best in the International League - Bowden and Buchholz.

So, you “unsophisticates” can post up the “wazoo” all you want. Feel free to copy over any posts you wish to continue with. Several have been rather informative.

117 comments:

bogofree said...
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bogofree said...

Suo

Is a "Wazoo" part of the engine on a Mercedes?

Hal Brown said...
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Hal Brown said...

Continued from Week 24:

ying-yang and wazoo are slang terms for anus. My only reason for pointing it out was that rude terms should NOT be used when referencing an elderly lady. I didn't expect such a hearty defense.

Even in my high dudgeon rants against those I called right wing hate mongers (on CHB in Feb. 2008) I tried to be more creative - and accurate - than that in describing the kinds of people we saw interviewed at Sarah Palin rallies.

About all Jessie, Mark and others seem to come up with is that.

1) I didn't come down hard on pro-casino posters' bad manners,

2) I used rude terms in a column (supposedly unbefitting one who is a psychotherapist) about the far right - like those zealots interviewed at Palin rallies - and

3) I implied they -local people- were racists (by writing about CERA and about racism).

I suggest following the debate on Bellicose Bumpkin here. You can post there with Google but he reviews comments before allowing them online.

I find reading what Mark posts on Bellicose Bumpkin interesting social psychology. I do actually have a BA in psychology and took both undergrad and grad courses in social psych., sociology and communications so I don't have to put this on my ever growing to-do list.

If you look up some of the websites about the do's and don'ts of debating you'll find lots of the don't among the tactics he uses. He's not nearly as bad as Jessie though, who rarely if ever responds to any challenges.

Mark does, although he manages to ignore points that I think are quite relevant, and does his share of evading and attempting to distract from my points by accusing me of something he considers worse or bringing up a barely relevant point as it if it is an exact parallel. He does this today on the points of mine he responds to.

For the record, I do make mistakes. While I don't "love" saying I'm sorry when I do, I try to own up to them.

I wish we were actually having a debate with an unbiased moderator who would hold us to the rules - even grade us - as if we were in a college debate.

Suo Mynona said...

Bogo:

That would be the tailpipe from which all the obnoxious gas emanates.

You did not answer my question. Do you think BB The Sophisticate uses Grey Poopon or French's Yellow mustard.

Suo Mynona said...

Bogo:

What is the sophisticated manner to trespass?

bogofree said...

I go with the Grey as I recall in the advertisments they used Bentley's. Very sophisticated.

With the trespass it is merely the invitation got lost in the mail.

Hal Brown said...

Bogo reminds me (in an email) of the salutary effects of being able to eat crow, i.e., admit when you're wrong and when appropriate saying you are sorry.

The most difficult part of achieving self-awareness is looking at aspects of yourself that you don't admire. Everyone has an ideal image of themselves, and at times when you look in the mirror with eyes wide open and the person who looks back isn't who you want it to be.

On the casino issue I've done several things that backfired. I felt it important to bring up the involvement of CERA locally. I wanted to discuss the few local people - not part of CFO - who seemed to be against the casino because they were prejudiced.

As a tactic this was an error because the CFO counter that I was race baiting worked for them. I do not believe I owe anybody an apology.

I also took photos of people who didn't want me to do so. This was indeed rude, although I believe their objections had to do with who was taking the picture not being photographed per se. I believed they were part of the story so I continued to take their pictures.

If they really had a phobia - as some do - about being photographed I apologize to them.

Mark attacks me today writing "Bull Hal. When Marshall was revealed as a lying rapist stealer of valor you wrote a gushy editorial that you felt his pain and it was time for him to begin to heal." That editorial is here.

Obviously I didn't know the extent of his crimes when I wrote it or that Amelia Bingham would be proven right in her allegations. I wish I had. Trying to show some empathy for someone isn't something to apologize for.

He also writes "You've set yourself up as the personal moat who tries to drench any critic with the stain of racist."

I can't find words strong enough to object to this untrue statement.

I swear that if I thought I had ever done this I would own up to it.

On My Way. said...

The Internet Avenger said...
"On your way to losing your family?"

Happy Mothers Day!

To be continued at another time.

Maybe Tuesday Night....

bogofree said...

Many a time I have be in circumstances that have had me faced with the reality I was dead wrong and had to pay a visit to crow recipies.

On My Way. said...

Bogo,

I don't know what you mean by that. No matter what I have ever written on this internet, I would never ever say such a thing like someone is going to lose their family.

Since when do people lose their family for calling someone a goofball on the internet?

There are 4 people involved two carry guns! Yes I am scared of losing my family.

I took the statement the way "I" as in "ME" as in MQ read it and understood it.

I don't care what others say it says or what there understanding is of it is.

Its not their family IA is talking about. I have already talked to who I think is IA and I'll go with it if IA dose not appoligise for that statement.

How am I going to lose my family?

Has someone discussed doing this?

Selectman meetings are Hearings and considered under Oath am I correct?

bogofree said...

"I don't know what you mean by that. No matter what I have ever written on this internet, I would never ever say such a thing like someone is going to lose their family."

I'm confused, Mike. I don't know what you mean my I don't know what you mean. This is like Abott and Costello's Who's On First.

White Lines running through your brain. said...
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White Lines running through your brain. said...

LOL! that didn't even sound right .. LOL.. wait a minute Whos on second.

DSW 50% off sale. said...

Im coming to Middleboro tonight 6pm I'll be down the ballfield you want to have coffee.

Dog, Bounty Hunter said...

Not a great idea to advertise where and when you're going to be somewhere on the internet. Not even a good idea to meet posters in person. Fewer complications that way.

DSW 50% off sale. said...

sometimes I forget where I am at.

Oh! well everyone will know where Im at.

it won't happen again. If you want to have coffee and introduce yourself hey come on by I don't bite..

Hal Brown said...

I'd say the most serious concern would be advertising when you aren't going to be home, not where you're going to be, so I hope everybody has a good alarm system and neighbors watching your house for anything unusual.

I am curious why some of the regular anonymous posters here don't trust people like bogo, "on my way" and I to keep their identity confidential.

I'm sure each of you have a reason they don't want to post under their real names or meet us in person (usual for a lunch on us).

Some day I'd like to know what the reasons are, if only to judge for myself whether they make sense, at least to me.

Maybe in your position I'd do the same.

bogofree said...

I could care less and always have if someone cares to use their name or the ever famous anonymous. I don't know how many hits this site has nor do I have or care to have any tracking capabilities.

I'll meet anyone and all they have to do is send me an email -oh...and buy! Not that I'm cheap or anything.

Most have their own life and do not need a group hug. This blog and others provide a mild diverson.

Suo Mynona said...
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Suo Mynona said...

***BB The Sophisticate Moves to "Unsophisticated" Middleboro**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEOxYV25lbg

Bogo can I be Mr. Haney?

On my way said...

I HAVE IT!!!

Iv'e always been looking to invent something that would make money.

I came up with a thought for a gadget.

You would wear this around your neck and it would work on NEXTEL technology, You push a button and your shoes would start beeping if you lost them?

Think of the savings! Not having to buy new shoes every weekend will be a huge plus.

Looking for input. Is this a sellable idea?

On my way said...

Im telling you...

It happens to everyone

On my way said...

Jimmy Choo's

You see the price of these Jimmy choo's , You might want a his and her style push button shoe finder.

Maybe we could expand and add a house finder. Maybe a friend finder! etc..

Rocky said...

What the Clark....

Dog you are sick. Why do you say you should not advertise or meet people after you just got through saying that there is nothing to worry about?

Add your comments together and it consitiutes a threat.

Look at what you said. You are either a total wacko or something else. Eitherway, you need to watch what you say.

Like I said before, I was in law school and putting those comments together may be a threat. Credible is another thing, since you are not a credible person, but with all the wackos in Middleboro with guns, you just made my list of people who I will watch my back about.

I don't have a gun, since I don't like them.

Dog, Bounty Hunter said...

Rocky-

You completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. I either did not express myself well or you put two nonsequitors together.

BTW, I also do not own a gun and never would. I don't even know why you brought that up because I certainly made no such reference.

I write under a pseudonym like most others, including you, do because I value my privacy as well as that of others. I do not make threats.

I also do not personally know anyone here and feel more comfortable keeping it that way.
Haven't a clue who you are.
Gosh some people are really touchy!

Rocky said...

Ok Steve

bogofree said...

Suo

I need some advice from a sophisticate since I am just a Mboro average third rate dips**t.

Is it OK to wear a string tie with my tuxedo?

Should I spit my tobacco juice into a bottle or Styrofoam cup? Which is more environmentally friendly?

Is dogs playing poker considered fine art?

When I go squirrel hunting is it gentlemanly to load your significant others shotgun?

Should my flannel shirt match the color of my pickup truck?

On my way said...

"Ok Steve,

LMCAO,

It can't get any wierder or would that be weeder or weider Ah! you all know what I mean..

LOL!

Steve what you think about my shoe finder idea?

Suo Mynona said...

Bogo:

Camouflage is best. Camo helps to keep you hidden when illegally surveying commoners' land.

If you are caught by a woman who becomes upset. Just Yell the following words at her:

"Old bag If you have outrage coming out the wazoo you are out of luck. I am a sophisticate and immune to petty unsophisticated d*psh*ts like you."

anonymous said...

“Meanwhile you have a history of cavorting with people and on web sites that exhibit the worst in human behavior and polite conversation .... yet you say nothing ..... and continue to focus on anti-casino people who use horrible terms like "ying-yang", "casino costs", and "ESL students".”

BB comment to Hal. LMCAO! I guess with his abysmal track record he represents the sophisticated element in Middleboro. LMCAO! Nothing about sheep, BB? How about whorehouses? Aids?

jane lopes said...

"Not a great idea to advertise where and when you're going to be somewhere on the internet. Not even a good idea to meet posters in person. Fewer complications that way."
Dog, where were you when I decided that my benevolent and gentle presence would bebeneficial to Bogo and Dal, so that I befriended them and found myself in this strange world ...

jane lopes said...

... where I have lost most of my grammatical powers ...

Hal Brown said...
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Hal Brown said...

While I have put attending finishing school on my now lengthy to-do list to become an expert on everything, however I will try to answer bogo's questions.

Is it OK to wear a string tie with my tuxedo?


Yes, if you wear a cowboy hat. See photo.

Should I spit my tobacco juice into a bottle or Styrofoam cup? Which is more environmentally friendly?

Anything is better than spitting it on the floor or into Jane Fonda's face (as someone did). The classy was is to use one of these. .


Is dogs playing poker considered fine art?

.

Not unless they are real dogs..

When I go squirrel hunting is it gentlemanly to load your significant others shotgun?

.

Not unless she's never done it before. It shows respect for her ability if she loads it herself. Besides she may need to load it some time when you aren't around. Plus it is safer for her (or him) to load their own..

Should my flannel shirt match the color of my pickup truck?

.

No. Same color flannel shirts are boring. Find some that include the truck color but also have a variety of other colors. This style consultant recommends avoiding to much red as it has become a cliche..

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On my way said...

John.. Johnny... Johnny Walker you get right back here with them.

Those are my shoes..

Hal Brown said...

Nt that anyone here cares, but here's my final act on the Bellicose stage:

I was going to put this on Bellicose, but then read the last 5-6 comments and changed it:

If you want me to debate you here be aware that since you aren't my clients my patience is not unlimited.

I suggest the following:

Be specific when you criticize me. Use actual quotes and links.

You can easily search the Casino-Friend website using key words from the first page.

If I used hate speech you would be justified in blaming me for what others did with those statement. Show me examples of hate speech I used before saying I incited anything.

Don't make connections between things that aren't clearly connected.

Don't use barely related examples of my supposed misdeeds to distract from my points. If I did something wrong it doesn't negate something you did wrong even if the wrongs are equal.

Don't bring up subjects I've already addressed and answered as best as I could.

Learn what an ad hominem attack is and don't use them against me.

Don't hold me accountable for not knowing things I didn't know unless the information was readily available to the public.

Leave the fact of my being a psychotherapist out of attacks against me. I'm as entitled to an opinion as anybody is.

Hold yourself to the same standard of courtesy when you post about me as I do when I post about you.

It is easy and perhaps gratifying to get cheers from your own choir by making sarcastic remarks about me, but as tempting as it is to do so, I won't be here for you to kick around if it persists.

CHANGED TO;

I see there's no room on this blog for a respectful, courteous dialogue with someone all of the posters disagree with and most of the posters persist in making ad hominem attacks against.

I have treated all of you with respect in my responses to you. My good manners have not been reciprocated.

bogofree said...

Hal

I told you folks all about "The Real Raven" and I'm as reliable as Clark, CT.

Forget those sites, Hal, they just go down a one way street.

Suo Mynona said...
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Suo Mynona said...

Bogo:

You asked:
"Is it OK to wear a string tie with my tuxedo?"

You are either a d*psh*t or playing me for a fool.

You did not identify what time of day or the type of event to which you would be wearing the tuxedo.

Thought I would fall for that? Are you setting me up for BB to say that have about as much sophistication as Mr. Kimball?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mzIY_lJpW8&feature=related

bogofree said...

My bad. Pig roast. Early evening. Also, is it best to wear New Balance or Nike's with the tux?

Question on beer. My wife likes to pop the tops with her thumb and forefinger and I say in public it should always be the teeth unless you don't have any. Been a big arugment over this. Who's right? Lottery ticket riding on this.

Suo Mynona said...

You should know the answer about bottles by now after listening to BB say how dumb and unsophistiated we are.

The tough men in Middleboro can open bottles with their gums.

On my way said...

Watch this she lost her shoe

On my way said...

Can't lose these puppies, But then again, It depends.

On my way said...

Look at these beer can squashers

On my way said...
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On my way said...

Going to need a big vehicle to haul around your beer squashers can fit Keg squashers in this vehicle

Sorry for the deletion, I didn't want to come across as you need a big vehicle because your beer squasher is big, It was so those big beer squasher shoes will fit in it.

I hope I cleared that up.

anonymous said...

Hal

I see "Miss Manners" on the worthless BB blog is telling you all about your sins. LMCAO! This from one the most vile people this side of VV. LMCAO!

Hal Brown said...

I never took her picture, or anyone's picture, with the camera held at my side.

The picture of her hiding her face became interesting only because she was hiding her face behind the recall clipboard.

Lots more opinion about me from Jessie on Belicose Bumpkin here; but the only thing I wanted to state (for the second time) is that I didn't take pictures with a camera at my side.

I hope this is merely a misperception on her part. The picture of Judy Gibbs and Jessie (click on thumbnail on upper right) was CROPPED out of a picture of several people standing on the island by the high school and taken the NORMAL way.

I will continue to take pictures of people and places, where and when legally permissible, and decide for myself when to honor requests not to do so.

By the way, two of my pictures, not credited, were in the Gazette on Thursday (the Greener Horizon crew and the woman jogging by the new garden).

Suo Mynona said...

**BB the GREAT GAZOO OR WAZOO?**

BB believes it appropriate to use the word wazoo about an elderly woman.

Was the "GREAT WAZOO" banished by his kind to help those of us in Middleboro that are:
*unsophisticated
*third rate citizens
*d*psh*ts
*fail his IQ test
*value 50 bucks
*frown on posting inappropriate animal pictures

Does the way he constantly insults the townspeople make him THE GREAT WAZOO OR GAZOO?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLyglyf-9E&feature=related

On my way said...

Hal,
You still with us? I have a question, I need to get away from the lost shoes issue, something tickles the inside of my belly now when I see shoes.. Only certain ones though. Combat boots and the likes. YeoWWWsaaa!!

Let me stop!

what I really want to know is why people use profanity? I mean you sit around a family cook out and you got one of these people that just swear and swear, I don't mean your little pee and ca,ca.. swears I'm talking hard core,street corner,project born, classless hoochy momma, type talk.

What brings that on? any idea?

anonymous said...

May 10---Bogo's one year blog annversary.

Hal Brown said...

Good question, too complicated to answer here.

Check these out:

"Why do we swear?".

"What the f***? Why we curse".

"Almost before we spoke, we swore"

On my way said...

Lay off them

On my way said...

WOW Weeeeeeee! holy leapin canolis..

On my way said...

Baseball

Just because its a baseball and someone wears a baseball hat, doesn't mean its about them...

So Vein, so very vein.

On my way said...

Ah! tricked on you! thought it was going to be baseball cleats or something.

LOL! I crack myself up.

anonymous said...

Hey, Mike, get a life.

Rocky said...

Where are my trousers

anonymous said...

Your wife is wearing them

On my way said...

What is wrong with some people, Let me explain!

Body Odor...

They..stink..Pure unshowered nastiness..

Common sense should dictate showering and putting some clean clothes on daily, Your going to be around other people that might find the stench of unbathed bodies very embarassing.

A real friend would be able to tell you to your face if you reak! Like in the service or on a sports team, Dude your hawking take a shower.

This would be a good thing, That means you would have a real friend that thought he was close enough he could tell you that without reprucussion.

Same as when you have a dancing bear hanging off your nose, A good friend can tell you, Someone not so close will just wipe there own nose hoping you will pick up on it and knock your bear off without having to tell you.

Here is my question..What happens when everyone knows you stink,They all put up with the smell, thinking it might just be a one time deal.


If you put up with the smell and never told people they have a bad case of the Whooop! Deee! Dooos, does that mean you feel you were never close enough to this person, in all actuality you were just aquaintances passing through life?

Think about letting people know if they smell,might tell you a little bit about your relationship and how close you really are.

Now before you all put your arms up and ask yourselves, is he talking about me?

No I'm not!!! Don't feel it..

Hal, why can't people tell other people they smell funky? Or they have a boogie?

Hal Brown said...

Consider why it seems easier for people to tell a man his fly is open than he has body odor, or why it's easier to tell someone their breath smells like garlic and offer them a mint than they have consistently bad breath.

I think it's because in each example above the former has a quick and easy fix, and doesn't point attention to a personality trait. The same goes for the visible dried nasal mucous (see illustration).

In our culture we generally don't tell people face-to-face about their consistently socially off-putting behavior. Of course when you dislike the person now the Internet offers open season on such criticism, though it's often peppered with insults.

(If someone wants to bother, they can list the names I've been called.)

A close friend or loved one should be able to overcome concerns about the person's embarrassment or anger and tell them if their habits or behavior is offensive to others.

There are a lot of interrelated reasons they DON'T do this but probably the most common are fears of alienating or angering the person and knowing from experience they won't do anything about it.

Rocky said...

You mean they don't shower or they don't use deodorant because many people believe the deoderants cause serious health problems later in life.

Stinking from being unclean is different. Clean body and clothes do not stink even if you do not use deodorant and when you sweat, you have a different scent not stink.

Then add on your diet. If you eat good foods and do not eat candy, drink sugary soda or alcohol or smoke, you probably will not stink.

I prefer the deodorant, no smoking and clean clothes.

On my way said...

Don't worry if my signifigant other was to get the Whoop Deee Dooos, I have no problem telling her to get in that shower..

She is my friend.

Never had to tell her that though.

LMCAO....

Hal Brown said...

Sweat has very little odor. Your dog can differentiate your sweat from someone else but most people can't. What causes an unpleasant odor is when the sweat interacts with bacteria on the skin.

Simple bathing combats most body odor.

Deodorants that only inhibit sweating and add a perfume don't do anything to stop the underlying problem which is bacteria on the skin.

There are the obvious causes of sweating - exercise and heat - but anxiety is another cause in lots of people.

Sometimes the sweating is the only sign the person themselves has that they are anxious. They may FEEL calm but the underlying anxiety isn't conscious. The body knows but the mind resists recognizing it.

On my way said...

What if your just a slob? Is that just laziness?

Hal Brown said...

You're getting into pretty heavy psychology here.

I don't think there's such a thing as "just being a slob" if, as I assume by slob you mean that the majority of people would consider the behavior deviant.

Lack of personal hygiene, living with dirty dishes and uneaten food, having your home cluttered and other examples, and considering if there are negative effects on personal relationships, all have to be evaluated as one of many other characteristics if you're looking to determine whether the person is just "quirky" or has a psychiatric diagnosis.

I hope this and my other answers to mental health questions are informative and not used to condemn anyone. The more we understand people's psychological problems the more tolerant we should be of their off-putting behavior.

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Hal Brown said...

Check this out from the Bridgewater BOS:

"Residents will no longer be able to speak on the spur of the moment during the open forum section of the Board of Selectmen’s weekly meetings.

The board’s new chairman Tuesday night announced a new policy — residents will have to sign up in advance with their name and topic.

Stanley Kravitz (click thumbnail to enlarge - he's contracting to farm the bogs we sold), who was re-elected to the board last month and was elected as chairman last week, held his first regular weekly meeting on Tuesday and his first order of business was to announce weekly selectmen “staff meetings” to be held at 6 p.m. before each selectmen’s meeting.

Then he announced that any resident who wants to speak at open forum during a selectmen’s meeting needs to register beforehand."

Read entire article and interesting comments HERE

Hal Brown said...

I'll try to catch Stanley the next time he's over at the bogs and ask him about this.

Meanwhile I think it will be interesting to watch the comments to this article and see how people in Bridgewater react.

There seem to be some similarities between the BOS issues here and there.

I wonder what would happen if our BOS initiated the same policy.

(Picture is Stanley at harvest)

bogofree said...

So much for democracy. Are their meetings log jammed with open mic? I doubt it.

Steve McKinnon has open office hours. Wonder how that is working out? Don't know how many take advantage.

anonymous said...

Uh-oh! Wait til Jessie hears about this! Bridgewater's about to become "informed" about Open Meeting Laws. LMCAO

anonymous said...

Hal: From Bridgewater Town website:

skravitz@bridgewaterma.org

Family Guy said...

Why not? She lives in Middleboro and can focus on Bridgewater and Gladys lives in Bridewater and can focus on Middleboro.

Suo Mynona said...

***BB's Next High Brow Comment***

Any over/under bets on how long it will take BB to insult the town again?

I think he has eclipsed the 10 day mark just a time or two. LMCAO

anonymous said...

Check his latest blog entry. I take today! Pay up! Back to the CPA.

On my way said...

I predict 2 morro, I will be the superstar of some radio station because we all know its all about me. there are some that are so easy and predictable. I'll be listening and I suggest you all be tuned in if you can recieve it.

Rocky said...

No. He can't stop talking about the selectwoman. Maybe he has a thing for her. He is obsessed with her.

anonymous said...

No. They're all politicians. Ergo they all suck and are out for themselves. The only difference beteen them is the packaging.

On my way said...

What a hypocrite..

Hey is it legal to put your family in a car while your hammered and drive away?

Of course not!

Then why would someone do it?

Some with higher education should be held to higher standards correct?

Hal Brown said...

Why are you bringing up someone's hypocrisy? Did I miss something?

On my way said...

Its not my place to defend others I was correct in what I predicted that they wouldn't have jack to say about me or my company this week.

So sad both of them...

Rocky said...

Just because someone has a higher education does not mean that they are smarter.

An education does not make up for lack of common sense.

anonymous said...

Common sense has become a rare commodity in general these days. About as rare as civility.

Suo Mynona said...

Not much worse than education snobs. Same for people that feel the need to educate third rate unsophisticated d*psh*ts

Rocky said...

It is not lack of common sense it is lack of respect that many people exhibit.

I always say, one who cannot respect others cannot respect themselves.

North Slope Rigger said...

Save us, Bogo! Lester is crap and Papi's bat need Viagra.

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