Thursday, August 14, 2008

It's The Messenger!

I have stated many times that you can support the message and not the messenger as in the case of Jessie Powell. Mary Tufts is now in that elite company of the dishonored. Over a week and still no reasoning behind mass mailings or vandalism and this is looking every bit like a repeat of the JP issue that I so eloquently posted on somewhere in this collection. In my experience, first hand, is that when you "mis-speak" or post faulty data you hustle right up front to correct it or say "I screwed up." Totally acceptable. What is not is the bunker mentality that is being displayed and the support it gets from the ever shrinking CFO group. Now, I'm sure if there was any validity to what she posted it would have been front and center on her blog. Ain't there, folks. That, in my book, closes the deal.

Through the years I have been been shocked by behaviors of those I have supported in the political and sports arena. Again, in politics, you can and should support the message even if your messenger has serious character flaws - Hello! John Edwards - is the latest example. Does it mean what he says is without value simply because he had a track record of dishonesty? Of course not and the same would apply to a Craig or Ted Kennedy or the myriad of politicians who seem to be prone to personal attempts at self destruction. Again, support the message.

Seems like this issue will be handled the same way Jessie handled her "problem." Ignore it and rely on the drones of your shrinking support group for reassurance. Jessie at least had the good sense to find an issue that could resurrect some semblance of being a public person. I suspect this will not happen with the latest adventure of foot-in-the-mouth. I won't even get into chickens and mallets that seem to have gotten the Topix crowd going full bore.

CFO just looks like that Jackie Gleason character - "The Poor Soul." Anti casino folks have to stand alone at this point. Failure is their option.

21 comments:

chica said...

yofpivdI saw this listed on Topix and read the stuff you wrote on those two women. How can anyone seriously take anything they say? I went to middlebororeview and she has private forums and a ton of energy stuff. But I did a search on some of the things you had and found them. OMG! The woman just is nasty!

What is with the other one. Gladys Kravitz. All she does is write about everyone else and then complain.

chica said...

Sorry I didn't look at this before I posted. I meant to say I saw the blog posted on Topix and looked at it.

Why are they so angry all the time?

Why the name bogofree?

bogofree said...

Buy One Get One Free is the Bogofree. Avid user of coupons.

I am ready to add Mary Tufts name to the title since she has also been noted as a confirmed liar. In her case it's just everything falling down around her.

Jessie has some interesting information on energy and has become the engergy "Queen of Cut and Paste" but it does provide an excellent resource data base and the tips are wortwhile. Most importantly it keeps her occupied and out of everyone's way. Bitter person no doubt caused by a series of political defeats and humiliating public lies. Maybe she can try and reinvent herself with energy?

I would suggest, Chica, that you shop around for anti casino information and not to let the bloggers you read and their links to CFO cloud your opinions. There are many "normal" folks involved in the issue on both sides so just ignore the flamers...but you can still read this blog. LOL!

LMAO said...

I looked at the energy blog of "The Queen of Cut and Paste" and saw this great thank you from Bob Kinney that got this bag of wind all puffed up. Is that the same guy that's on the BOD of chickenfeathers? LMAO!

What do this clowns do? Take turns patting each other on the back?

bogofree said...

LMAO

I tend to disagree with Bob - if he is the same Bob I knew from scouts years ago - a solid guy and, I believe, involved with the G&E. As far as Jessie it keeps her occupied and away from everyone else. Much of what she posts is common knowledge and at least she has created a local repository for it. I really don't care to read the ramblings of a far left Moonbat when she drags far left politics the issue. Ditto for the wing nuts on the far right. Neither group is to be taken seriously.

I do agree on the way they support each other. I can imagine a group meeting: "Hi...my name is Mary and I'm a confirmed liar and have no intention of changing." Probably gets a standing "O."

LMAO said...

Hey, bogo, I stole some of your lines. LMAO!

bogofree said...

That's OK since I probably stole them from someone else. Both sides have their code names for each other. I always liked Flying Monkeys.

PuppyBreath said...

Carl Pierce from Lakeville quoted this man

"It sucks." - Charles V. Snurkowski, lifelong Norwich CT resident and former employee of Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun casinos.



Read more about what this guy thinks of his casino experience.



"I worked in both of them. Given the choice I would blow them both up. I never worked so hard for so little."

At Foxwoods, Snurkowski was a cafeteria server, making $7.26 an hour. Then he went to Mohegan, where, as a server, he fed up to 4,000 people a night but still never made $8 an hour. That was six years ago. And, Snurkowski said, he wound up going bankrupt because he also gambled at the casinos.

"Casino gambling is like anything else. You lose more than you win. It's a fun place to go if you can control yourself," Snurkowski said.



Charles Snurkowski
Charles Snurkowski Died August 19, 2008 TALLAHASSEE, FL -Charles Snurkowski, 88, who retired as a U.S. Army Sergeant First Class and retired U.S. Postal employee in 1975. was a lifelong resident of Norwich Ct.

Now this is where Carl got his facts, Lets take a look at the source. God bless Mr Snurkowski may he rest in peace.
So Carl what this man is saying at 82 years old he was working a full time job at the Casinos? Retired from the Army $$$ per month and then Retired from the Post office $$$ more money per month, Then he's working a full time job at age 82 "God Bless him" Who do you know at 82 years old still working full time I can't see how you can feed 4000 people in a 4 hour part time job must have been full time? Carl 82 years old, I repeat 82! He was retired down in Florida.

Now Im not saying he wasn't working full time at the casinos 6 years ago but an 82 year old man feeding 4000 people a shift divided by 8 hours 500 people per hour? thats one busy place? Im not that good but this just does not sound right. Now I did research the name and there was only one Charles Snurkowski from Norwich Ct.

Now below you will see a story done in Febuary 2008 Mr Snurkowski is at age 71 Hmmm! so he worked at the casino's 6 years ago by this article that made his age 65, something is not right here. I just can't put my finger on it!
Can You?


Sunday February 17, 2008, 7:17 PM
By LORI STABILE
lstabile@repub.com



Also at the park, Charles V. Snurkowski, 71, complained about the casinos. "It sucks," said the lifelong Norwich resident. "I worked in both of them. Given the choice I would blow them both up. I never worked so hard for so little."

At Foxwoods, Snurkowski was a cafeteria server, making $7.26 an hour. Then he went to Mohegan, where, as a server, he fed up to 4,000 people a night but still never made $8 an hour. That was six years ago. And, Snurkowski said, he wound up going bankrupt because he also gambled at the casinos.

"Casino gambling is like anything else. You lose more than you win. It's a fun place to go if you can control yourself," Snurkowski said.

PuppyBreath said...

500 people / 60 minutes comes out to 8.5 or so people per minute. Feed 8.5 people per minute Carl @ 82 years old. God bless him, I only hope me and you are that good at 82 years old. Wait did I say....82 years old. Yup! 82 years old.
Whats wrong with your copy paste job? Not researching the facts Carl but then again you can fall back on the old well thats what I read and copied. I didn't write it. No Carl you posted it without doing the research.

Prove me wrong.

bogofree said...

I think we have already seen a pattern with the CFO bloggers where facts are tossed to the wind in an attempt to damage the casino issue. That is where I separate myself from them.

I certainly can understand the impact of compulsive gambling as my father was big time with gambling. You can find thousands of cases to point that up but it comes down to are you willing to accept the collateral damage? With gambling I am and so is society.

As stated....a fun place to go if you can control it.

anonymous said...

Old friend "anonymous" here, Bozo. LOL! I may be staunch pro but I love the style you have where you call a spade a. Better not go there. LOL! Where you will give your slant no matter who it stirs up. Sticking it to the cfo phonies on not cutting those links and the first few posts you have on this thread are classics. I love the $500 reward thing and that is the guy I was trying to think of on another post. Dal. LMFAO!

Maybe some of the pro crowd or even you should have a $500 reward for MT if she can post proof of mass mailings and vandalism.

I'll check in every once in awhile.

chica said...

I just read the blog by Carverchick and she seems to be really wired. I thought I was reading the transcript of a revival meeting. You could take stuff from that blog and make a good SNL skit. How can people take such ranting seriously?

I read some of the others and they seem the same althought one, Bumpkin, actually appears normal and somewhat in favor of just getting more money. But Gladys and Carver just seem dangerious.

bogofree said...

Chica....
I agree with you on that blog. A lot of hyperbole - I'm an expert - and it did seem rather silly. Like a blog version of Benny Hinn but don't let that one blog cloud your perception. Read the next one - Americus Briefly which is quite detailed and informative. As with several of the CFO bloggers they get a bit carried away on their "crusade." They let the Toxic folks work them over and it drives them nuts. Gladys is well over ther top at this point and you'll see little of any substance - again, I'm an expert on lack of substance within a blog. I think see let's the others do the research aspect.

I suspect Bumpkin is trying to distance himself from the others now that he has a new gig. Good luck with that since the Pro's will be all over him. Too bad he gave such a free rein to MR when he really needed the discipline stick on her rather than me. All in here and that is long ago.

anonymous said...

MR comment, Bozo, care to add to it?

Is it Raven now? Or have we reverted to bogofree or bratbird?
Rick McNair chased posters off the nemasket discussion forum for unknown reasons and failed to abide by the moderator's requests. When he takes the time to research and sticks to a subject, he's an invaluable source of information and insight. For unknown reasons, he began to attack and challenge everything that was posted by others.

bogofree said...

Unknown reason? Let me "educate you." Look at the title of this blog. Jessie Powell is a confirmed liar. Mark Belanger had the option to do the right thing which was to be a responsible moderator and request that support be provided for statements she made. He did not. I knew exactly what would eventually happen to me and it did and I'd do in again and again. I was a mod on that site and am a mod on a baseball site that would not tolerate false data being posted. It is removed or the poster is. Mark knows that and knows I would not relent as we exchanged emails on it. Challenge everything? Very doubtful and we all challenged each other on issues.

Jessie Powell needs some serious thought about that whole affair. She had a golden opportunity to state she had made a mistake and would be more careful in the future. She choose to stonewall and the situation became quite public. This happens time and again and now Mary Tufts is in exactly the same situation. Just today I was congratulated on my actions. This was a painful but necessary situation for me as I would not stand buy and allow false information to be disseminated even if it was for a cause I supported. I also realized that what others had warned me about Jessie was true. My bad and I have already posted on this whole situation extensively. I have lost a moumtain of respect for CFO and their bloggers for not stepping up on this situation and asking for Jessie to explain.

Jessie is a talented and forceful person who could have and should have been an asset too this community but instead has humiliated herself. I would never support her no matter how much I may agree with her as long as this remains an open issue. This will always haunt her as she has a passel of enemies who willingly pounced on this issue.

As far as driving posters away I could care less. If their mindset is to allow false information to be posted then so be it. As a mod I can tell you they had a handful of posters PRIOR to and AFTER the situation with Jessie and from what I understand little has changed. Half the folks signed on were just pro’s trolling the site.

I have no idea what the problem is with my IDs as I had a separate one for each site. Jessie had multiple ones on Middleborocasino and on Nemasket she had to be asked to maintain just one ID. Therealraven, of course, is a personal favorite.

I may actually agree with Jessie on certain issues and her “Queen of Cut And Paste” energy blog is top notch source for information. I may not agree with the various political slants but the tips and resources are excellent. Jessie knows I’ve been solar for almost three decades.

Anon, this has been a unnecessary and lengthy post simply because you choose not to read my entire blog. What I have just said I have said here and elsewhere so I suspect this may be just to have Jessie, myself and the other CFO types continue our pissing contest. So, your answers were really imbedded within my various blogs. If the point is to post every negative comment about me from the CFO crew then I am sure this space will be tied up endlessly. If you have a serious question on a position you can post it here or on Middleboro casino site that is now open.

This blog was started as an outlet since none existed. Now Topix exists and that group is certainly a verbal lynch mob. A lot of anger built up over several CFO folks. But I would suggest to Jessie that it is NEVER TOO LATE. What Jessie really needs to do is finally just admit to the facts that everyone knows. Just say “I screwed up.” After all, it’s not like she signed a crappy casino deal. I would urge her to do that so that I could deep six this blog. She is entirely capable of making a one paragraph statement thanking folks for their support and to ask for their continued support despite an error in judgement. That would be it.

Anonymous said...

Mary Tufts and the crew would never let postings like this on their on sites. They only allow the "atta girl" or "atta Boy" posts.

You get a question you address it. Keep it "bozo"

anonymous said...

Don't get upset Bogo as I was not trying to be a smart ass. I just thought it was something that JP is either clueless or in denial over her situation.

I remember you writing on Nemasket.net that you were dead wrong on a housing crunch in Middleboro. That went against what other anti's were saying and you admitted right up front you were wrong. That is the first and only time I have ever heard an anti say they were wrong. I liked your observations when you were on the road and spoke to real people at real casinos. You went both ways on that and just gave an honest feedback from speaking with people.

I enjoyed what you wrote on education at that site and it was great watching "Chief Pat Self On Back" and JP trying to dig into you. Obviously they had no background and it showed. All it was is the usually Bob Sullivan is a town employee so that is the problem. You know that and baseball since I read you on NESC.

So I hope I explained the situation. Continue to blog and I'll continue to post here and especially on toxic.

LMAO said...

The comments on the chickenfeathers.org are a riot. Jackqui "never reads Toxic" and neither does MT. On and on they say they never read it yet their blogs are focuesd on Toxic. One after the other. Stay away. It is so nasty. We are so wonderful. Hey, ladies and that means especially you "1623" you are a bunch of frauds. Just admit it.

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